Make you think or ponder…
Jesus, the wisdom of God
1Co 1:30
30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who was made unto us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption:
Paul says this:
1Co 2:6-7
6 We speak wisdom, however, among them that are fullgrown: yet a wisdom not of this world, nor of the rulers of this world, who are coming to nought: 7 but we speak God's wisdom in a mystery, even the wisdom that hath been hidden, which God foreordained before the worlds unto our glory:
Jesus is the wisdom in a mystery which was hidden. And most of it is still very hidden.
Eph 3:18
18 may be strong to apprehend with all the saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth (of Jesus),
Pro 8:1-4
1 Doth not wisdom cry, And understanding put forth her voice? 2 On the top of high places by the way, Where the paths meet, she standeth; 3 Beside the gates, at the entry of the city, At the coming in at the doors, she crieth aloud: 4 Unto you, O men, I call; And my voice is to the sons of men.
Jesus came for men…
Joh 1:4
In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
Pro 8:5-11
5 O ye simple, understand prudence; And, ye fools, be of an understanding heart. 6 Hear, for I will speak excellent things; And the opening of my lips shall be right things. 7 For my mouth shall utter truth; And wickedness is an abomination to my lips. 8 All the words of my mouth are in righteousness; There is nothing crooked or perverse in them.
-Opening of my lips
-my mouth
-all words of my mouth
Jesus IS the Word of God.
Joh 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Pro 8:9-12
9 They are all plain to him that understandeth, And right to them that find knowledge. 10 Receive my instruction, and not silver; And knowledge rather than choice gold. 11 For wisdom is better than rubies; And all the things that may be desired are not to be compared unto it. 12 I wisdom have made prudence my dwelling, And find out knowledge and discretion.
Jesus...the wisdom of God, better than rubies, gold and silver.
Pro 8:14-17
14 Counsel is mine, and sound knowledge: I am understanding; I have might. 15 By me kings reign, And princes decree justice. 16 By me princes rule, And nobles, even all the judges of the earth. 17 I love them that love me; And those that seek me diligently shall find me.
Seek and ye shall find...Matt 7:7-8
Pro 8:18-21
18 Riches and honor are with me; Yea, durable wealth and righteousness. 19 My fruit is better than gold, yea, than fine gold; And my revenue than choice silver. 20 I walk in the way of righteousness, In the midst of the paths of justice; 21 That I may cause those that love me to inherit substance, And that I may fill their treasuries.
Spiritual treasure, not earthly treasure.
**Here is a mystery**
Pro 8:22
22 Jehovah possessed me in the beginning of his way, Before his works of old.
One of these mysteries??
Possesed? H7069
-to erect, that is, create ; by extension to procure, especially by purchase (causatively sell); by implication to own: - attain, buy (-er), teach to keep cattle, get, provoke to jealousy, possess (-or), purchase, recover, redeem, X surely, X verily.
The KJV translates Strong's H7069 in the following manner: Buy (46x), get (15x), purchased (5x), buyer (3x), possessor (3x), possessed (2x), owner (1x), recover (1x), redeemed (1x), miscellaneous (7x).
Pro 8:23
23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, Before the earth was.
Wisdom/Jesus was there before the earth was. Jesus was 'setup' from everlasting. This is one of those mysteries. How?
Setup? -H5258 -to cast (as metal)?
The KJV translates Strong's H5258 in the following manner: pour out (12x), pour (4x), cover (3x), offer (2x), melteth (1x), molten (1x), set (1x), set up (1x)
Example: Psa 2:6-7 'set' in verse 6
John seems to concur with this:
Joh 1:1-2
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Prov 8:24-26
24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth, When there were no fountains abounding with water. 25 Before the mountains were settled, Before the hills was I brought forth; 26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, Nor the beginning of the dust of the world.
H2343 - brought forth
to twist or whirl (in a circular or spiral manner), that is, (specifically) to dance, to writhe in pain (especially of parturition) or fear; figuratively to wait, to pervert: - bear, (make to) bring forth, (make to) calve, dance, drive away, fall grievously (with pain), fear, form, great, grieve, (be) grievous, hope, look, make, be in pain, be much (sore) pained, rest, shake, shapen, (be) sorrow (-ful), stay, tarry, travail (with pain), tremble, trust, wait carefully (patiently), be wounded
Prov 8:27-29
27 When he established the heavens, I was there: When he set a circle upon the face of the deep, 28 When he made firm the skies above, When the fountains of the deep became strong, 29 When he gave to the sea its bound, That the waters should not transgress his commandment, When he marked out the foundations of the earth;
Pro 8:30-31
30 Then I was by him, as a master workman; And I was daily his delight, Rejoicing always before him, 31 Rejoicing in his habitable earth; And my delight was with the sons of men.
Jesus as a Master workman/craftsman/architect
Col 1:16
16 for in him were all things created, in the heavens and upon the earth, things visible and things invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers; all things have been created through him, and unto him;
Through him...w God's help???
Joh 1:3
3 All things were made through him; and without him was not anything made that hath been made.
Prov 8:32-36
32 Now therefore, my sons, hearken unto me; For blessed are they that keep my ways. 33 Hear instruction, and be wise, And refuse it not. 34 Blessed is the man that heareth me, Watching daily at my gates, Waiting at the posts of my doors. 35 For whoso findeth me findeth life, And shall obtain favor of Jehovah. 36 But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: All they that hate me love death.
Maybe read this…
Col 1:17-20
17 and he is before all things, and in him all things consist. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. 19 For it was the good pleasure of the Father that in him should all the fulness dwell; 20 and through him to reconcile all things unto himself, having made peace through the blood of his cross; through him, I say, whether things upon the earth, or things in the heavens.
*Seems to suggest that it was the "good pleasure of the Father" that in Jesus, all fullness should dwell. And that Jesus the "master workman or builder", who went to the cross (went to bat) for his creation is given the preeminence. (Superiority)
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Who created the heavens and the earth?
The Father through Jesus (wisdom of God)
Or
Jesus thru the Father?
Hmmm…
Gen 1:1-4
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 And the earth was waste and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep: and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
Joh 1:5
And the light shineth in the darkness; and the darkness apprehended it not.